Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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The Republican Rush

By Gary Pearce March 24, 2011

I’m the last person most Republicans would listen to for advice. But I’m struck lately by the concerns I’ve heard from serious and nonpartisan people about the GOP’s ambitious legislative agenda.   As one veteran at the legislature observed: “If the Republicans try to do everything now, there won’t be a later for them.”  …

The Oldest Story in Politics

By Carter Wrenn March 24, 2011

As Claude Rains said in Rick’s Café in Casablanca, I’m shocked, just shocked. It’s like the world turned upside down – here on Talking About Politics. I’m defending trial lawyers and Gary’s defending negligent doctors.   The issue of ‘medical malpractice reform,’ in a unique way, boils down to hard-edged questions about personal responsibility… and…

One Libyan Jet

By Carter Wrenn March 23, 2011

Oh Lord, will we ever learn from our mistakes?   There’s a restaurant near my office with a dozen television sets lining the walls (usually turned to basketball games) but the other night they were all turned to CNN and Fox as a Libyan fighter went down in flames and a cruise missile blew apart…

Fergit, Hell!

By Gary Pearce March 23, 2011

An N&O letter-writer takes umbrage at the bipartisan effort to pardon Civil War-era Governor W.W. Holden, denouncing him as a “pestiferous ulcer on the body politic.” (It’s hard to find good calumny like that anymore) Then someone leaves on senators’ desks an “unflattering biography of Holden that quoted histories written by a deceased white supremacist…

Another View on Med Mal

By Gary Pearce March 23, 2011

I do consulting work with doctors and hospitals, and my view of medical-malpractice reform differs from Carter’s.   First off, personal-injury lawyers aren’t opposed to reform just out of tender hearts and a passion for justice. They’re looking after their bank accounts.   Second, a lawyer who is a skilled courtroom performer can hit the…

Another Quagmire?

By Carter Wrenn March 23, 2011

Well, the United Nations has voted to go to war with Libya only it doesn’t call it a war it calls it a ‘no-fly zone’ – which is political double talk for filling the skies over Libya with American or French or British fighters blowing up Libyan tanks and artillery and air-defense batteries.    The…

The Party Caucus

By Carter Wrenn March 21, 2011

Once years ago at one of Jesse Helms rallies a local Republican official – one of the old-line party stalwarts Jesse used to call ‘pachyderms’ – cornered Jesse and pointing his finger started upbraiding him for not toting the party line up in the Senate and not voting the way the Republican leaders wanted him…

Over-Reading

By Gary Pearce March 21, 2011

I love Public Policy Polling – and the almost-daily poll fix they give me. But I take issue with a recent analysis. PPP found that Senator Kay Hagan’s approval rating was up – to 39 percent, with 38 percent disapproval. According to the N&O: “Pollster Tom Jensen attributed Hagan’s improved standing to some more conservative…

High Finance Government Style

By Carter Wrenn March 18, 2011

It’s hard to make heads or tails of this: The Republican Legislature raises taxes on hospitals $215 million – and the hospitals are delighted, tickled to death. In fact, newspapers report, the legislature raised the ‘tax’ at the request of the Hospital Association.   The explanation gets even stranger. And more confusing: The $215 million…

Getting the News

By Gary Pearce March 13, 2026

How do you get your news? Our statewide poll asked North Carolina voters what their primary…

MAGA-gator

By Gary Pearce March 12, 2026

Thom Tillis and Phil Berger fed the MAGA alligator. Then it ate them. Thomas Mills wrote…

Enough is Enough

By Gary Pearce March 11, 2026

Exactly 80 years ago, in 1946, Republicans took control of Congress with a simple message: “Had…