Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Dan versus Roy: Every Lost Second

By Carter Wrenn June 3, 2020

Dan Forest is a good, decent man and he’s the most conservative candidate on the ballot for statewide office this fall but he’s running against an incumbent Governor who has a fine-tuned political machine with its eyes locked on beating Dan Forest. We’re a swing state and, before the coronavirus epidemic upended the world, Roy…

Coronavirus Journal, April 5

By Carter Wrenn April 7, 2020

Coronavirus first reared its head in China in January but it wasn’t until two months later that HHS placed its first order to stockpile masks. A foible. Oklahoma ordered 16,000 face shields – FEMA sent 120,000. North Carolina ordered 500,000 coveralls – FEMA sent 306. HHS had over 16,000 ventilators in the stockpile – but…

Light to See

By Carter Wrenn March 30, 2020

You rarely hear a politician or a TV talk show host or health-care bureaucrat mention it but there’s one crucial fact we don’t know: The Infection Rate. We don’t know the total number of people in the United States who have already been infected by coronavirus. Why is that fact crucial? In Italy the government…

A Hard Look and a Prayer

By Carter Wrenn March 24, 2020

The morning the Japanese sunk our fleet at Pearl Harbor Americans took a hard look at Franklin Roosevelt with one question on their minds: Is he up to the job? After the Stock Market Crash in 1929 the same hard look undid for Hebert Hoover and, during the Iran Hostage Crisis, it sank Jimmy Carter.…

Trump’s Big Bet

By Carter Wrenn March 22, 2020

Trump sees one way he can win the election even if he loses Independents – by firing up his ‘base.’ By getting Trumpsters who didn’t vote in 2018 and 2016 to go to the polls. Trump – using tweets and name-calling and boasting – has put all his showmanship to work to do that. What…

Part II of Trump’s Plan

By Carter Wrenn March 21, 2020

Back in 2016 Hillary got a shock during Early Voting – Blacks who’d voted for Obama stayed home and didn’t vote for her. I remember looking at the bleak (for Hillary) numbers: In 2012, when Obama ran, 22% of the voters in North Carolina were African-Americans. In 2016, only 18% of the voters were African-Americans.…

Sleepy Joe, Senile

By Carter Wrenn March 20, 2020

Trump’s plan to overcome his unpopularity with Independents is straightforward: He’s going to make Biden more unpopular than he is. And being Trump he’s blunt about it – he tweeted: ‘Sleepy Joe doesn’t know where he is or what he’s doing – I don’t think he even knows what office he’s running for.’ At a…

How Trump’s Going to Conquer Ambivalence

By Carter Wrenn March 19, 2020

Years ago a political savant told me, There’re three types of elections: One, the election where you like both candidates and vote for the one you like most. Two, the election where you like one candidate and dislike the other – that one’s easy, you vote for the candidate you like. Three, the election where…

The Election: How Vanity Bred a Mistake

By Carter Wrenn March 18, 2020

At his rallies Donald Trump roars about the might of his base – in his eyes it’s the key to his defeating Joe Biden. So he tweets (to his base) how he has the highest approval rating among Republicans of any President, even Lincoln – but Trump’s calculation may boomerang: If every Republican Trumpster in…

Getting the News

By Gary Pearce March 13, 2026

How do you get your news? Our statewide poll asked North Carolina voters what their primary…

MAGA-gator

By Gary Pearce March 12, 2026

Thom Tillis and Phil Berger fed the MAGA alligator. Then it ate them. Thomas Mills wrote…

Enough is Enough

By Gary Pearce March 11, 2026

Exactly 80 years ago, in 1946, Republicans took control of Congress with a simple message: “Had…