Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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He’d Kill Us, Too

By Carter Wrenn January 13, 2023

The newspaper story had dozens of photographs – working men holding shovels, digging up mass graves: One photo showed broken white bone fragments lying in black dirt, another a severed hand, another a mound of skulls with single bullet holes in the back, shot execution style by Putin’s soldiers. Workers dug up bodies of 245…

The Price You Pay

By Carter Wrenn January 11, 2023

Two years ago, not long after Biden whipped Trump, sitting in a restaurant, voice incredulous, staring at me across the table, blinking, a Republican laughed: “What – are you blind? You can’t see Biden stole the election?” Heads nodded. I remembered election night (in 1980) when John East trailed, led, trailed again, at five o’clock…

Who Won? Kevin? Matt?

By Carter Wrenn January 10, 2023

Over and over CNN called it a fight between normal Conservatives and Ultra-Far-Right-Conservatives. But the fight wasn’t about ideology – or issues – it was about power. For years Washington Politicians – not starting with but including Speaker Nancy Pelosi – tilted House rules, grasping for power. Rules gave them the power to decide who…

I’m Back

By Gary Pearce January 7, 2023

Start the presses. I’m blogging again. I took a break in August 2021 to work on a book about my life and my experiences in politics and newspapers. I’ve written 200+ pages, and there’s more to come. One day I’ll get around to publishing it. Some parts will have to wait until I’m gone. For…

“We’re Back”

By Carter Wrenn January 7, 2023

There was ice in the room the day I met Gary – sitting in a law office staring across the table I saw a devil; staring back Gary saw a devil. We worked out the four Helms-Hunt debates back in 1984. Left. Sitting in another office years later Gary told doctors in a fight with…

Gary Hahn’s Bad Call on “Illegal Aliens”

By Gary Pearce January 1, 2023

NC State sports announcer Gary Hahn got suspended when he called migrants in El Paso “illegal aliens.” Some of my fellow Wolfpack fans jumped to his defense: “What’s wrong with that?” And, “They are illegal aliens.” Here’s what’s wrong. “Illegal aliens” is a dehumanizing term. No human being is “illegal.” They may do something illegal…

Zelensky and Trump

By Gary Pearce December 22, 2022

One is a man of profound moral courage. The other is an arrested adolescent of profound moral cowardice. One is a patriot. The other, a traitor. One proudly unfurled his country’s flag. The other dishonors his country’s flag. One stands for democracy, freedom and the rule of law. The other, for one-man authoritarianism. One stood…

Another Senate Whiff for NC Democrats

By Gary Pearce December 1, 2022

Once again, Lucy (North Carolina voters) pulled the football (a Senate seat) away from Charlie Brown (Democrats). In the 50 years since 1972 – when the two-party era began in North Carolina and Jesse Helms won the first of five Senate elections – there have been 18 Senate elections. Democrats have won four and lost…

National Relief, But NC Disappointment

By Gary Pearce November 20, 2022

The election left me feeling better about our country than I have for six years. But worse about North Carolina. 2022 showed that Americans are tired of the Trump Show, which has been running nonstop at full volume for seven and a half years since he rode down the golden escalator on June 16, 2015.…

Getting the News

By Gary Pearce March 13, 2026

How do you get your news? Our statewide poll asked North Carolina voters what their primary…

MAGA-gator

By Gary Pearce March 12, 2026

Thom Tillis and Phil Berger fed the MAGA alligator. Then it ate them. Thomas Mills wrote…

Enough is Enough

By Gary Pearce March 11, 2026

Exactly 80 years ago, in 1946, Republicans took control of Congress with a simple message: “Had…