Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Echoing Neville Chamberlain

By Carter Wrenn August 1, 2023

Back during the Cold War, veterans who’d fought in World War II watched Vietnam, Cuba, countries in Africa, Asia, Central America fall to the Soviet Union; determined to stop Russia, conservatives, like Ronald Reagan, said three words: ‘Peace through strength’ – liberals answered: ‘Détente.’ It looks like we’re heading into a new Cold War with…

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Hot Political News

By Carter Wrenn July 31, 2023

Trump tweeted out a picture of Christie and Obama, said Christie helped sink Romney; Christie tweeted out a eighteen year old photo of Trump and Hillary, shot back he didn’t invite Hillary to his wedding. A GOP Congressman ripped the Biden Administration for hiding UFOs. Biden’s dog bit his Secret Service agents ten times, one…

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The Truth

By Gary Pearce July 31, 2023

Carter Wrenn and I don’t argue a lot, even though we disagree often. But I’m taking issue with him today. He wrote last week, “… it’s time to put politics aside and look for an honest answer to the question: Who stole the election? Biden? Or Trump?” No, we know the answer. Trump’s lawyers took…

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Young Voices

By Gary Pearce July 28, 2023

Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes is closer to my age than to young voters, but he gets why Democrats should listen to them – and understand their life experiences. On our Zoom conversation last week with state Democratic Chair Anderson Clayton, Fontes said: “I didn’t grow up in a world where I had to…

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Our Better Angels

By Carter Wrenn July 28, 2023

“If we’re ever going to find our better angels again, it has to start with us setting the example of how to disagree better.” – Utah Governor Spencer Cox Republicans and Democrats now live in separate worlds; each watches their own cable news network; they quarrel, bicker, every day in Congress; political wars are meaner…

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A Crossroads…

By Carter Wrenn July 27, 2023

Americans are marching in two tribes: One nods when they hear Trump’s voice – the other scowls. Prosecutor Jack Smith’s looming lawsuit against Trump comes down to one question: Who stole the 2020 election? Did Biden? Or Trump, when he tried to remove Biden’s Presidential Electors? Democrats howl Trump broke the law. Republicans roar Biden’s…

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The Governor’s Race Just Got Heated

By Carter Wrenn July 26, 2023

Mark Walker slammed Mark Robinson for denying the ‘Holocaust’ ever happened. In 2018, before Robinson became a politician, he said on Facebook: “This foolishness about Hitler disarming MILLIONS of Jews and then marching them to concentration camps is a bunch of hogwash.” Walker read Robinson’s post, punched. Over a year ago when Robinson called gays…

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Go Young, Democrats

By Gary Pearce July 25, 2023

Last week, I moderated a Zoom conversation that turned to Democrats’ huge opportunity with voters under 35 – the later Millennials and Generation Z. I’m a Gen Geezer, and my generation should listen up. The conversation was with state party Chair Anderson Clayton and Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes, who last month gave the…

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Crossing the Line

By Carter Wrenn July 25, 2023

The first time Trump said, ‘The election was stolen,’ I thought it was his vanity speaking – afraid he’d be seen as a ‘loser’ he spun a tale. But Trump said it so often, over and over, and so many people – like Rudy Giuliani – told him he was right, he came to believe…

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Finding a Genius

By Carter Wrenn January 3, 2025

Happy, naming cabinet members, on his way back to the White House, Trump says he sees…

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Governor Stein

By Gary Pearce January 2, 2025

Because he grew up in Chapel Hill and went to Ivy League colleges, Josh Stein sometimes…

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Strange Times

By Carter Wrenn January 1, 2025

He married, divorced, married again, divorced again, married his second wife again (his third marriage), divorced…

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