Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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On the Air With DG

By Gary Pearce July 19, 2013

Carter and I taped “Who’s Talking” with D.G. Martin on WCHL FM 97.9 for this weekend. It is scheduled to run this Saturday and Sunday at 6am, 1 pm and 11pm.   You can also hear it at http://chapelboro.com/category/wchl/lifestyle-weekly/whos-talking/ .   We talked with D.G. about the legislature, the size of government, Moral Mondays and…

Where’s Our Wendy?

By Gary Pearce July 18, 2013

Because it’s about a big electoral prize that Democrats dream about – and because it has some salience to North Carolina – this long article in Texas Monthly is worth a read for Democrats. (Sorry, Republicans, it’s banned for you.)   The article addresses this proposition: “Democrats once ruled Texas. Then came five decades of…

Taxes, Jobs and Education

By Gary Pearce July 17, 2013

Thankful yet? You get a tax cut. And North Carolinians get more jobs. At least, that’s the theory.   Cary Republican Rep. Nelson Dollar called it the “jobs bill of a generation.”   Sen. Josh Stein, a Raleigh Democrat, called it “tax breaks for the wealthy and out-of-state corporations.”   Here’s the economic question: Will…

Pat Pops Off

By Gary Pearce July 16, 2013

Governor McCrory has a bad habit: He says what he thinks will impress the person in front of him. That gets a politician in trouble. And it has him.   It’s why he’s breaking his promise on abortion. It’s why he made himself a punching bag over whether he was in a Moral Monday crowd.…

Malicious Magic

By Carter Wrenn July 15, 2013

The other day Thomas Edsall of the New York Times reported that a terrible thing has happened. Since the Voting Rights Act passed, the number of Black state legislators has grown from fewer than 5 to 313 – but at the same time, Black political power has diminished. The problem: Most Black legislators are Democrats…

Zeb Alley

By Gary Pearce July 15, 2013

Zeb Alley was truly a happy warrior. He was a real warrior, a warrior wounded in combat in Korea. For the rest of his 84 years, he loved life, laughter, lobbying, the legislature, people, a party, a good meal, a good time and the Democratic Party.   For all my happy memories of Zeb, I…

A Gift to Democrats

By Gary Pearce July 11, 2013

Nine times out of 10 in politics, what you think is a conspiracy is just incompetence. So it is with the Republicans and abortion.   Several TAP readers believe that all the GOP’s thrashing on abortion is a well-thought-out plan to pass new restrictions and avoid the political consequences.   They may achieve the first…

A Quirk of Human Nature

By Carter Wrenn July 10, 2013

The other morning there was a picture on the front page of the News and Observer of a hundred angry women, every one of them mad as blazes, carrying signs, shaking fists and chanting, ‘Shame, shame, shame’ at Republican Senators who’d just passed a new abortion bill (that required abortion centers to meet the same…

Branding Politics

By Gary Pearce July 10, 2013

“Employers must go where employees want to be” – Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst.   Raleigh City Councilman Randy Stagner quoted that line this week. It sums up the challenge that Raleigh and all North Carolina face today under the state’s new management.   Rob Christensen captured it in his strikingly strong column Sunday: “North…

We’re Moving to Substack

By Gary Pearce May 28, 2026

Carter Wrenn and I are moving to Substack. That’s where you’ll find our blogs in the…

Political Shots Fired

By Gary Pearce April 28, 2026

The political sniping began even as chaos still reigned at the White House Correspondents Dinner. My…

Obama 48-Trump 39

By Gary Pearce April 26, 2026

A new nationwide poll shows that, if they could run against each other in 2028, Barack…