Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Rule of Law

By Gary Pearce 2023-08-02

Prosecutor Jack Smith proved yesterday that, in a world of coups and dictators, America is still a nation of law and justice. A grand jury of ordinary Americans indicted Donald Trump for trying, as President, to overturn the 2020 election. Trump will keep defying the rule of law. He will keep lying. Some 37% of…

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Echoing Neville Chamberlain

By Carter Wrenn 2023-08-01

Back during the Cold War, veterans who’d fought in World War II watched Vietnam, Cuba, countries in Africa, Asia, Central America fall to the Soviet Union; determined to stop Russia, conservatives, like Ronald Reagan, said three words: ‘Peace through strength’ – liberals answered: ‘Détente.’ It looks like we’re heading into a new Cold War with…

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Hot Political News

By Carter Wrenn 2023-07-31

Trump tweeted out a picture of Christie and Obama, said Christie helped sink Romney; Christie tweeted out a eighteen year old photo of Trump and Hillary, shot back he didn’t invite Hillary to his wedding. A GOP Congressman ripped the Biden Administration for hiding UFOs. Biden’s dog bit his Secret Service agents ten times, one…

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The Truth

By Gary Pearce 2023-07-31

Carter Wrenn and I don’t argue a lot, even though we disagree often. But I’m taking issue with him today. He wrote last week, “… it’s time to put politics aside and look for an honest answer to the question: Who stole the election? Biden? Or Trump?” No, we know the answer. Trump’s lawyers took…

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Young Voices

By Gary Pearce 2023-07-28

Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes is closer to my age than to young voters, but he gets why Democrats should listen to them – and understand their life experiences. On our Zoom conversation last week with state Democratic Chair Anderson Clayton, Fontes said: “I didn’t grow up in a world where I had to…

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Our Better Angels

By Carter Wrenn 2023-07-28

“If we’re ever going to find our better angels again, it has to start with us setting the example of how to disagree better.” – Utah Governor Spencer Cox Republicans and Democrats now live in separate worlds; each watches their own cable news network; they quarrel, bicker, every day in Congress; political wars are meaner…

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A Crossroads…

By Carter Wrenn 2023-07-27

Americans are marching in two tribes: One nods when they hear Trump’s voice – the other scowls. Prosecutor Jack Smith’s looming lawsuit against Trump comes down to one question: Who stole the 2020 election? Did Biden? Or Trump, when he tried to remove Biden’s Presidential Electors? Democrats howl Trump broke the law. Republicans roar Biden’s…

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The Governor’s Race Just Got Heated

By Carter Wrenn 2023-07-26

Mark Walker slammed Mark Robinson for denying the ‘Holocaust’ ever happened. In 2018, before Robinson became a politician, he said on Facebook: “This foolishness about Hitler disarming MILLIONS of Jews and then marching them to concentration camps is a bunch of hogwash.” Walker read Robinson’s post, punched. Over a year ago when Robinson called gays…

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Go Young, Democrats

By Gary Pearce 2023-07-25

Last week, I moderated a Zoom conversation that turned to Democrats’ huge opportunity with voters under 35 – the later Millennials and Generation Z. I’m a Gen Geezer, and my generation should listen up. The conversation was with state party Chair Anderson Clayton and Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes, who last month gave the…

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A Lost Soul

By Carter Wrenn 2024-04-23

We don’t know much about him – he grew up in a village on the coast…

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Rachel Hunt and MAGA Meltdown

By Gary Pearce 2024-04-23

Two things this past weekend made me feel good about this election. First, I crashed a…

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Trump’s Ordeal – Week 1

By Carter Wrenn 2024-04-22

Trump rolled through two civil trials, hardly blinking, defiant, but at the end of the first…

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