Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Going Too Far

By Carter Wrenn February 3, 2025

Cheeks round, pudgy fingers fumbling, Ellmer took a newspaper article out of his briefcase, pushed it across the table toward me: ‘I’ll bet you disagwee with Trump on this?’  Sputtering, unable to pronounce r’s, he turned them into w’s. Sitting beside him Wiley’s lips curled in a crooked grin – at the end of the…

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Dividing Line

By Gary Pearce February 3, 2025

Trump has done America a big favor: in just two weeks, he’s drawn a bright line between decency and cruelty, honesty and dishonesty, courage and cowardice, competence and incompetence, compassion and contempt. If you want the freedom to openly show your bigotry and prejudice, you stand with Trump. If you want the liberty to tell…

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A Show

By Carter Wrenn January 31, 2025

Addison McDowell worked for Ted Budd, worked as a lobbyist, 31 years old ran for Congress, got Trump’s endorsement in the primary, headed to a runoff with Mark Walker. Trump offered Walker a job – Walker got out of the race. McDowell won, took the oath of office, posted on X he’d sponsored a bill…

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Chaos, Carnage and Cruelty

By Gary Pearce January 31, 2025

Trump doesn’t care how much chaos he creates, how much carnage he causes and how much cruelty he inflicts on people, including his own supporters. It’s all about making himself look big, strong and powerful. It’s all a show. Before, it was The Apprentice. Now, it’s The President. He makes a show of signing executive…

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Two Pieces

By Carter Wrenn January 30, 2025

When the smoke cleared – after Jesse Helms’ second campaign – we’d raised more money than anyone had ever raised in a Senate election; at the start of that campaign staring at reams of new election laws, confounded, I’d called Stan Evans head of the American Conservative Union. “I’m going to need a lawyer.” Stan…

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Mish-Mash

By Carter Wrenn January 29, 2025

Tim Waltz posted a photo of himself standing outside in a snowstorm wearing a flannel shirt – mocking Waltz, Trump campaign manager Chris LaCivita posted above the photo, Everyone knows you wear a dress Tim. Above a video of Biden walking to a car, stopping, straining to hear questions shouted by a reporter, Trump’s press…

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Finding Out

By Gary Pearce January 28, 2025

Some Trump supporters are surprised to find out they’re Trump victims. Farmers at the American Farm Bureau convention were “nervous” that Trump’s immigrant deportations will take away their low-wage farmworkers. Police unions that endorsed Trump are “deeply discouraged” that he pardoned January 6th thugs who assaulted police officers. Latino voters who shifted to Trump and…

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A Day of Reckoning?

By Carter Wrenn January 27, 2025

Watching a troupe of politicians sitting in line side by side behind an ornate wooden dais holding a hearing reminded me of watching an old play: Lips moved, the words politicians said boiled down to getting re-elected. Trump picked Hegseth, Kennedy, Patel, Bondi – no Republican dared cross Trump, risk a primary with Trump on…

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Quite a Week

By Carter Wrenn January 24, 2025

This week was quite a week: Biden pardoned his brother, sister, other brother, a general who detests Trump, every member of the Jan. 6 committee, and of course he’d already pardoned his son Hunter. Climbing into a helicopter Biden left the White House. Trump sat down in the Oval Office, pardoned the mob who’d stormed…

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Huckabee’s Hymnal

By Carter Wrenn December 10, 2007

I didn’t realize it until it was too late but on Sunday morning some devil, or…

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Start and Stop on School Reform

By Gary Pearce December 10, 2007

Just before he left office, former Governor Jim Hunt wrote (with a little bit of help…

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Presidential Firing Line

By Gary Pearce December 10, 2007

Mike Huckabee is learning the inexorable rule of presidential campaigns – one that Hillary Clinton, Barack…

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