Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Trading Bad for Worse

By Carter Wrenn May 24, 2023

A born showman running for Lt. Governor Mark Robinson boasted, ‘I am North Carolina…’ After he got elected, rolling on, he slammed foes, got cheers, but also stepped on land mines. Robinson started running for governor, changing directions posted bromides on Facebook: ‘I love the police…I love our veterans…My mother’s my hero…’. The showman vanished.…

The Danube isn’t Blue

By Gary Pearce May 24, 2023

Strauss’ waltz notwithstanding, the Danube River is brown. Its powerful current flows 1,770 miles from the Black Forest in Germany to the Black Sea in Romania, through 10 countries, past four national capitals and through 1,500 years of history. Gwyn and I took an eight-day cruise upriver from Budapest to Bratislava, Vienna, Krems, the Wachau…

Cooper Drops the Mic – Twice

By Gary Pearce May 23, 2023

Just before we left for a European cruise (more on that later), Governor Roy Cooper held a boisterous Veto Rally that highlighted Republican legislators’ extreme abortion bill. The day we came back, he declared a “State of Emergency for public education” in a five-minute video that highlighted Republican legislators’ extreme anti-education budget. Supermajority-sotted Republicans called…

My Memoir

By Carter Wrenn May 19, 2023

Back during coronavirus shutdowns my office telephone rang – a friend asked: ‘You’re not locked down?’  ‘I’m here alone.’  ‘I just read Jesse Helms’ pollster was Arthur Finkelstein.’ I told him about Arthur’s first poll for Jesse, about the first time I heard Jesse make a speech. He asked, ‘Why did Reagan lose to Gerald…

Abandoning Faith

By Carter Wrenn May 18, 2023

A Gothic church built in the 19th century turned into a skateboard park in the 21st century. Every year thousands of churches shut down, end up being apartments, parks, demolished. At the end of the 20th century 62% of Americans said religion was very important to them – twenty three years later, in the 21st…

A New Era

By Carter Wrenn May 17, 2023

Waking up in the morning, opening the newspaper, a headline leaped out: America has 1,550 nuclear weapons. So does Russia. China has less but it’s catching up – and China just got 25 tons of enriched uranium from Russia. Which the Pentagon says means China and Russia could end up with combined nuclear arsenals that…

The World They Lived In

By Carter Wrenn May 16, 2023

She was nineteen. He was twenty-nine. Dark-haired she was pretty not beautiful. He was short, frumpy, had a farmer’s calloused hands. They both had simple names: Abigail Smith, John Adams. Married in 1764 they started down the road to happiness and by Christmas she was pregnant – before their child was born the first blow…

Abortion

By Carter Wrenn May 15, 2023

When the Supreme Court made abortion legal – five decades ago – liberals thought, It’s a woman’s body – she has a right to decide whether to have an abortion. Conservatives, grimacing, saw abortion as taking an innocent life. To them, it was a choice between right and wrong. And protecting an innocent life was…

E. Jean Carroll

By Carter Wrenn May 15, 2023

E. Jean Carroll sued Trump. Trump said she wasn’t his type, claimed he didn’t know her…the jury met, every juror believed Carroll not Trump. Trump lost, tweeted, It’s a witch hunt. Republicans cheered. Just like they cheered when Trump said, The election was stolen. It used to be honesty mattered more than politics. Republican voters…

Getting the News

By Gary Pearce March 13, 2026

How do you get your news? Our statewide poll asked North Carolina voters what their primary…

MAGA-gator

By Gary Pearce March 12, 2026

Thom Tillis and Phil Berger fed the MAGA alligator. Then it ate them. Thomas Mills wrote…

Enough is Enough

By Gary Pearce March 11, 2026

Exactly 80 years ago, in 1946, Republicans took control of Congress with a simple message: “Had…