Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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A Little Screwy

By Carter Wrenn January 26, 2023

Over the years American courts have ruled no to school prayer, no to saluting the flag, no to saying the Pledge of Allegiance – all to ‘protect people’s constitutional rights.’ Now a Colorado businesswoman’s landed in a lawsuit in the Supreme Court because she won’t build gay marriage websites and, oddly, the same people who…

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Run, Liz, Run

By Gary Pearce January 25, 2023

America needs a third party. Liz Cheney should be its nominee for President. She could save America, and the Republican Party, from Donald Trump. We don’t need a centrist third party searching for a mythical middle ground. We need a true, never-Trump conservative party. Trump is no conservative. He’s a divider and a destroyer. Cheney…

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The Coming Fight

By Carter Wrenn January 25, 2023

For years, when Republicans fought in a primary, conservative candidates had an edge: Most primary voters were conservative. And, since Independent voters often agreed with conservatives on issues, conservative Republicans were able to go on and win General Elections. That’s changed. Today, for many Republican primary voters Trump’s a totem. Conservative, an idea, matters less.…

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Putin’s Happy

By Carter Wrenn January 24, 2023

Biden cut a deal with Putin, got Brittney Griner home. Trump blasted Biden, called his deal ‘stupid,’ said Griner ‘openly hates our country.’ The Internet erupted, war broke out with one side gushing over Biden, the other side jeering him – and Putin must have been happier than he dreamed: He got his arms dealer…

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Rare Courage

By Carter Wrenn January 23, 2023

Every election for years I heard Tom Ellis tell politicians, Put principle above politics – to do what’s right, don’t worry about getting elected. Those days are past. After reading an Elon Musk tweet Trump, on a tear, said election fraud justified ‘termination of the Constitution.’ He lost under the constitution – so throw out…

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Beth Wood’s Crash

By Gary Pearce January 22, 2023

State Auditor Beth Wood obviously made a mistake when she crashed her state car onto another car in downtown Raleigh the evening of Dec. 8. She made another mistake when she left the scene without reporting the crash to the owner or police. Another mistake when she didn’t fess up, in full, the next day.…

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Thanks, Joe

By Gary Pearce January 20, 2023

Three years ago this month, they said Joe Biden was too old and too out of touch to be elected President. Then he won South Carolina, swept the nomination and whipped Trump. Two years ago today, when he was inaugurated, they said he couldn’t get anything done with a 50-50 Senate and a thin House…

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Gridlock

By Carter Wrenn January 20, 2023

Gridlock’s back. And it’s not as awful as it sounds on CNN or Fox. Joe Biden can’t whip Republicans and Republicans can’t whip Biden – so steps in the right direction are going to die in their tracks but steps down the wrong road will too and when the threat you face is Washington politicians…

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A Lethal Tool that Backfired

By Carter Wrenn January 19, 2023

Years ago when Jim Hunt was thrashing Jesse Helms in his Senate race, Arthur Finkelstein dropped a poll on the table, lifted both hands in the air in front of him, palms open. “There’re two kinds of elections.” He waved one palm: “There’re issue elections.” He waved the other open palm: “And character elections. This…

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Recessional

By Carter Wrenn November 11, 2024

The tumult and the shouting dies; The Captains and the Kings depart: Still stands Thine ancient…

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Mistakes and Miss-Takes

By Gary Pearce November 10, 2024

Bert Bennett of Winston-Salem, the legendary political godfather to Terry Sanford and Jim Hunt, had a…

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Don’t Give Up

By Gary Pearce November 6, 2024

This is bad. Bad for America and for the world. Bad for women, for immigrants, for…

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