Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Political Stories: Casper Milquetoast Whips King Kong

By Carter Wrenn March 5, 2009

After a year of reading all our research files on Jim Hunt and watching Hunt on TV I’d come to the conclusion Hunt was kind of political Caspar Milquetoast – a politician who always had his finger to the wind and changed with the breeze. Well, Hunt had his finger to the wind but at…

Political Stories: Gays and Death Squads

By Carter Wrenn March 4, 2009

One thing is like fate in political campaigns: The unexpected always happens. It happened to us three days after we caught Hunt in the polls. Bob Windsor was an aardvark. He must have been a farmer – once – because he wore bibbed overalls like a farmer but he’d decided his real calling was newspaperman…

Elon Calling

By Gary Pearce March 4, 2009

For three days running this week, The News & Observer ran stories about the latest Elon University poll. As did other newspapers and TV stations across the state. The poll got widespread coverage because the issues were timely: the federal stimulus bill, Obama’s popularity, ratings of Congress and state issues including taxes, budget cuts, smoking…

Political Stories: The New York Committee to Elect Jim Hunt

By Carter Wrenn March 3, 2009

There comes a moment in a political campaign – if you’re fortunate – when for one moment the stars align and you can see with almost clairvoyant certainty exactly what the campaign is all about and how to win – that moment came for us in December of 1983: We knew Jesse’s campaign was about…

Budget Lottery

By Gary Pearce March 3, 2009

Blame James Carville. Twenty years ago, the then-unknown Ragin’ Cajun got Democrat Wallace Wilkinson elected governor of Kentucky with a new campaign gimmick: an education lottery. The very next year, he got Zig-Zag Zell Miller elected Governor of George the same way. Miller used the lottery proceeds to create HOPE scholarships, which sends Georgia students…

Political Stories: Finding the Key to Beating Jim Hunt

By Carter Wrenn March 2, 2009

When you start a campaign 25 points behind but have a lot of money you start running ads early and we did – 20 months before the election. Now the folks who worked at the Congressional Club were ideologues. True believers. We saw the world in black and white. Us versus Them. Light versus Darkness.…

A Better Governor Than a Candidate

By Gary Pearce March 1, 2009

Jim Hunt raised eyebrows during the campaign when he said Bev Perdue would be better at being governor than she was at being a candidate. It sounded like faint praise at the time. Now it seems prescient. Raleigh is amazed by Perdue’s deft performance since taking office. She is poised and comfortable in public appearances.…

Head of the Class

By Gary Pearce February 27, 2009

Everybody agrees that North Carolina’s educational-governance system is dysfunctional. June Atkinson wants the legislature to give her real power. Some legislators want to do away with her job. Governor Perdue bypassed the whole byzantine system by creating her own schools CEO.   You can’t blame Atkinson. She has been elected superintendent of public instruction twice.…

Political Stories: Jesse Sees a Second Poll

By Carter Wrenn February 27, 2009

Nobody ever accused Jesse Helms of being naïve but he made a pretty serious misjudgment when it came to running against Jim Hunt – Jesse didn’t think running against Hunt would be a cakewalk but he had the idea he was as popular (or more popular) than the governor and on top of that he…

MAGA-gator

By Gary Pearce March 12, 2026

Thom Tillis and Phil Berger fed the MAGA alligator. Then it ate them. Thomas Mills wrote…

Enough is Enough

By Gary Pearce March 11, 2026

Exactly 80 years ago, in 1946, Republicans took control of Congress with a simple message: “Had…

Faith in Politics

By Gary Pearce March 10, 2026

Jim Hunt would like James Talarico winning the Democratic primary in Texas. Like Talarico, the late…