Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Elon Calling

By Gary Pearce March 4, 2009

For three days running this week, The News & Observer ran stories about the latest Elon University poll. As did other newspapers and TV stations across the state. The poll got widespread coverage because the issues were timely: the federal stimulus bill, Obama’s popularity, ratings of Congress and state issues including taxes, budget cuts, smoking…

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Political Stories: The New York Committee to Elect Jim Hunt

By Carter Wrenn March 3, 2009

There comes a moment in a political campaign – if you’re fortunate – when for one moment the stars align and you can see with almost clairvoyant certainty exactly what the campaign is all about and how to win – that moment came for us in December of 1983: We knew Jesse’s campaign was about…

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Budget Lottery

By Gary Pearce March 3, 2009

Blame James Carville. Twenty years ago, the then-unknown Ragin’ Cajun got Democrat Wallace Wilkinson elected governor of Kentucky with a new campaign gimmick: an education lottery. The very next year, he got Zig-Zag Zell Miller elected Governor of George the same way. Miller used the lottery proceeds to create HOPE scholarships, which sends Georgia students…

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Political Stories: Finding the Key to Beating Jim Hunt

By Carter Wrenn March 2, 2009

When you start a campaign 25 points behind but have a lot of money you start running ads early and we did – 20 months before the election. Now the folks who worked at the Congressional Club were ideologues. True believers. We saw the world in black and white. Us versus Them. Light versus Darkness.…

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A Better Governor Than a Candidate

By Gary Pearce March 1, 2009

Jim Hunt raised eyebrows during the campaign when he said Bev Perdue would be better at being governor than she was at being a candidate. It sounded like faint praise at the time. Now it seems prescient. Raleigh is amazed by Perdue’s deft performance since taking office. She is poised and comfortable in public appearances.…

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Head of the Class

By Gary Pearce February 27, 2009

Everybody agrees that North Carolina’s educational-governance system is dysfunctional. June Atkinson wants the legislature to give her real power. Some legislators want to do away with her job. Governor Perdue bypassed the whole byzantine system by creating her own schools CEO.   You can’t blame Atkinson. She has been elected superintendent of public instruction twice.…

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Political Stories: Jesse Sees a Second Poll

By Carter Wrenn February 27, 2009

Nobody ever accused Jesse Helms of being naïve but he made a pretty serious misjudgment when it came to running against Jim Hunt – Jesse didn’t think running against Hunt would be a cakewalk but he had the idea he was as popular (or more popular) than the governor and on top of that he…

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Political Stories: Jesse’s First Poll

By Carter Wrenn February 26, 2009

Like Billy Flynn in a Chicago courtroom Obama’s speech to Congress was all razzle-dazzle. It takes a silver tongue to spend a trillion dollars then say you’re against big government and get away with it. I don’t know who else could have done it. Surely not Bobby Jindal. Politics is pretty discouraging these days –…

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Turning Back the Hands of the Clock

By Carter Wrenn February 26, 2009

Once upon a time North Carolina was considered the most anti-union state in the country; back then, nobody ever heard of a Democrat like Jim Hunt or Bob Scott supporting legislation to create more unions – but that’s exactly what Senator Kay Hagan is doing. So, what changed? It’s simple: Today Democratic voters see corporations…

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Does This Work?

By Gary Pearce February 23, 2025

Does a message about “workers,” “working families” and “working-class voters” really work for Democrats? Or does…

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Out of Touch

By Gary Pearce February 20, 2025

I’ve resisted the temptation to rail every day about Trump’s cruelty, corruption and incompetence – and…

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Jeanette Hyde

By Gary Pearce February 14, 2025

Jeanette Hyde went from Miss Yadkin County to Madam Ambassador. Hyde, who died Monday at age…

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