Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Washed Up

By Gary Pearce March 29, 2011

  A political tsunami brings ashore strange creatures from the deep. Witness some of the Republicans in the legislature.   A serious Senator, Neal Hunt, comes up with a good idea that could repair burnt bridges for Republicans: pardon Reconstruction Governor W.W. Holden, who was impeached for standing up to the Ku Klux Klan.  …

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Who’s the Legislator with a Gun?

By Carter Wrenn March 28, 2011

Someone in the State House sure does like handguns. First, legislators sponsored a bill to allow folks to carry concealed pistols in bars and restaurants. Now there’s a bill to require cities to allow concealed guns in parks. And Representative Mark Hilton is sponsoring a class in the legislature on carrying concealed guns.   Legislators…

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We Got Suckered?

By Carter Wrenn March 28, 2011

President Obama’s great coalition to defeat Libya – NATO, France, Britain, Arab League and the U.S.A. – is fraying at the seams.   The Arab League, the French say, is out of sorts with NATO. The French, as always, are marching to their own drummer and out of sorts with everyone. And our NATO allies…

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Redistrict the Right Way!

By Gary Pearce March 28, 2011

This is an urgent open letter to Republican political consultants in North Carolina:   Now is the time to come to the aid of your profession.   Your party is in charge of redistricting. The lonely eyes of all political consultants – Democrats and Republicans – turn to you.   I’m not talking about partisan…

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It Turns Out…

By Carter Wrenn March 25, 2011

Now that we’re bombing Libya the New York Times reports that, technically, we didn’t go to war to defeat Gadhafi. Technically, the Times says, all the UN Resolution did was set up a no-fly zone to stop Gadhafi bombing his own civilians. The General commanding our attack says pretty much the same thing: “Our mission…

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Reforming DENR

By Gary Pearce March 25, 2011

The easy story line is that rapacious Republicans are out to gut North Carolina’s environmental protections.   Not so fast.   In fact, Governor Perdue might want to jump on this train while she’s restructuring state government.   There are economic developers and business people who are responsible on environmental issues AND convinced that DENR…

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A Mystery

By Carter Wrenn March 24, 2011

Governor Perdue’s against ending end-course tests in high schools, she empathically told the newspaper. But, then, she took a breath and said there’s no way she’ll veto the Republicans’ bill to eliminate the tests. Then she took another breath and said she won’t sign the bill either. Instead, she’s going to sit on her hands…

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The Republican Rush

By Gary Pearce March 24, 2011

I’m the last person most Republicans would listen to for advice. But I’m struck lately by the concerns I’ve heard from serious and nonpartisan people about the GOP’s ambitious legislative agenda.   As one veteran at the legislature observed: “If the Republicans try to do everything now, there won’t be a later for them.”  …

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The Oldest Story in Politics

By Carter Wrenn March 24, 2011

As Claude Rains said in Rick’s Café in Casablanca, I’m shocked, just shocked. It’s like the world turned upside down – here on Talking About Politics. I’m defending trial lawyers and Gary’s defending negligent doctors.   The issue of ‘medical malpractice reform,’ in a unique way, boils down to hard-edged questions about personal responsibility… and…

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Who Pays the Price

By Carter Wrenn February 5, 2025

Wiley lifted his cell phone, held it in the air in front of him, pushed a…

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Going Too Far

By Carter Wrenn February 3, 2025

Cheeks round, pudgy fingers fumbling, Ellmer took a newspaper article out of his briefcase, pushed it…

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Dividing Line

By Gary Pearce February 3, 2025

Trump has done America a big favor: in just two weeks, he’s drawn a bright line…

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