Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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How Politics Works

By Carter Wrenn July 10, 2012

It probably seemed like a good idea at the time: A group of people building a swimming complex in Cary hired an architect, Kenn Gardner, who was also a County Commissioner, who as Commissioner had been advocating for a government subsidy for their complex.   But, in the end, it didn’t work out well at…

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Just Tuning In

By Gary Pearce July 10, 2012

When you’re running a political campaign, it’s hard to keep your perspective. It’s especially hard to remember that not everybody is paying as much attention as you are. Even worse, the voters who count the most – the truly undecided voters – aren’t paying any attention yet.   Harrison Hickman, who was Governor Hunt’s pollster…

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Huck’s Complaint

By Gary Pearce July 9, 2012

Mike Huckabee always struck me as a likeable Republican. So his critique of his party in The New York Times Sunday was striking.   He was asked: “Is this different from the party that you know and love?”   His answer: “Very much. It’s one of the reasons that I did not think this was…

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2, 7 or 12?

By Carter Wrenn July 9, 2012

In the old days there were only around a dozen political pollsters in the whole country and men like Lance Tarrance and Arthur Finkelstein spent years bent over poll books looking for trends and subtle enigmas and if you were in politics – like Tom Ellis and Jesse Helms and me – what they learned…

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The Master of the Deal

By Carter Wrenn July 9, 2012

In 2010 Governor Perdue steered Democrats to defeat, in 2011 the Republicans in the Legislature pounded her, and in 2012 she announced she was not running for reelection.   Speaker Thom Tillis has had his own problems: Two of his aides had affairs with lobbyists, Tillis declared nothing untoward (beyond adultery) was going on, then…

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Willie Bain Horton

By Gary Pearce July 9, 2012

Summertime is historically when presidential candidates get defined in a way that cripples them in the fall.   It happened to Michael Dukakis in 1988. After he locked up the nomination, he went back to Boston, rolled up his sleeves and work to work – on being governor.   Meanwhile, Lee Atwater rolled up his…

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How Washington Sets Policy

By Carter Wrenn July 6, 2012

How Washington went about setting health care policy is for more erudite minds than mine but here goes:   Tom, Dick and Harry rolled into the ER in ambulances and each was having a heart attack – Tom’s so poor he couldn’t afford to buy health insurance, Dick could almost afford it but not quite,…

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Owning it All

By Carter Wrenn July 5, 2012

It happens on Wall Street: A tycoon calls an eager young executive into his office and hands him a job to do (like selling Facebook stock) and says, This is your responsibility – you ‘own’ it.   Three years into the ‘Great Recession’ no politician in his right mind wants to ‘own the economy.’  It…

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How Government Works

By Carter Wrenn July 5, 2012

When Dr. Craigon Gray headed Medicaid in North Carolina he didn’t care much for home health care – he would tell anyone who’d listen how home health care was riddled with fraud.   Now a lot of folks suspected Dr. Gray’s animus towards home care (and his preference for sending elderly people to nursing homes)…

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The Unknown

By Carter Wrenn March 5, 2025

A legend in politics, with a sneaky streak but a kind heart, Paddy sat down in…

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Spinning Tales

By Carter Wrenn March 3, 2025

Trump growled Zelensky started the Ukraine war. John Bolton said Trump was wrong. Angry, my friend…

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Vanished

By Gary Pearce March 3, 2025

Ronald Reagan stood at the Berlin Wall and stood up to what he called the “Evil…

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