Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Finding Out

By Gary Pearce January 28, 2025

Some Trump supporters are surprised to find out they’re Trump victims. Farmers at the American Farm Bureau convention were “nervous” that Trump’s immigrant deportations will take away their low-wage farmworkers. Police unions that endorsed Trump are “deeply discouraged” that he pardoned January 6th thugs who assaulted police officers. Latino voters who shifted to Trump and…

A Day of Reckoning?

By Carter Wrenn January 27, 2025

Watching a troupe of politicians sitting in line side by side behind an ornate wooden dais holding a hearing reminded me of watching an old play: Lips moved, the words politicians said boiled down to getting re-elected. Trump picked Hegseth, Kennedy, Patel, Bondi – no Republican dared cross Trump, risk a primary with Trump on…

Quite a Week

By Carter Wrenn January 24, 2025

This week was quite a week: Biden pardoned his brother, sister, other brother, a general who detests Trump, every member of the Jan. 6 committee, and of course he’d already pardoned his son Hunter. Climbing into a helicopter Biden left the White House. Trump sat down in the Oval Office, pardoned the mob who’d stormed…

Biden Muted

By Gary Pearce January 24, 2025

One bleak visual at the inauguration summed up Joe Biden’s presidency: Biden sat silently – seething inwardly, no doubt – through Trump’s graceless, divisive and mean-spirited speech. For four years, Biden sat almost mute in the White House while Trump trashed everything Biden did to build back America after Trump’s first term. Biden thought the…

Joe John

By Gary Pearce January 22, 2025

State Representative Joe John, who died today, looked something like a friendly but fierce bulldog. He fiercely loved the law and our system of justice. He loved public service. He was one of few people to serve with distinction in all three branches of state government: judicial, executive and legislative. He loved baseball and the…

What You Missed

By Gary Pearce January 21, 2025

Some of my friends didn’t watch Trump’s inauguration. One went to church. One went to every Martin Luther King Day celebration she could find. One went to an inaugural-free lunch with friends out of town. One dedicated the day to intensive study of the NFL and college football playoffs. I watched for them – and…

Women Warriors

By Gary Pearce January 19, 2025

The Democratic Party needs to get tougher, and that’s a job for Democratic women. Sydney Batch (photo), the new Senate Democratic leader in North Carolina, signaled a tougher approach toward Republicans in an op-ed in The News & Observer: “Gerrymandered voting maps, efforts to strip power from Democratic elected officials and the consolidation of authority…

Lost Truth

By Carter Wrenn January 16, 2025

Back in the old days three TV networks – ABC, NBC, CBS – ruled the news; since all three tilted left, a lot of people often wondered, Is that the truth? Tom Ellis saw a cure. A conservative network. So, forty years ago, he, Jesse Helms, and I sent 900,000 people letters asking them to…

Biden’s Warning

By Gary Pearce January 16, 2025

In his farewell address, President Biden warned that “an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth, power and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights and freedoms and a fair shot for everyone to get ahead.” The oligarchy isn’t just “taking shape.” It’s taking power Monday. President Trump’s inauguration will…

Getting the News

By Gary Pearce March 13, 2026

How do you get your news? Our statewide poll asked North Carolina voters what their primary…

MAGA-gator

By Gary Pearce March 12, 2026

Thom Tillis and Phil Berger fed the MAGA alligator. Then it ate them. Thomas Mills wrote…

Enough is Enough

By Gary Pearce March 11, 2026

Exactly 80 years ago, in 1946, Republicans took control of Congress with a simple message: “Had…