Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Dissing Teachers

By Gary Pearce August 12, 2013

Republicans are turning mathematical somersaults denying they did what they did in this legislature: take a chainsaw to public education in North Carolina.   Clearly, they don’t have the courage of their convictions. They ran for office saying they’ll cut government. Now they deny they did it, and they run for cover.   They say:…

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Will Pope Denounce Goolsby?

By Gary Pearce August 9, 2013

Now that Senator Thom Goolsby has compared educators and the media to Vladimir Lenin, I presume that State GOP Chair Claude Pope will denounce him for an “inexcusable, disgusting and shameful” attack.   Goolsby wrote on his blog: “Vladimir Lenin said, ‘A lie told often enough becomes the truth.’ Professional educrats (education bureaucrats) and their…

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Sizing Up Pat

By Gary Pearce August 8, 2013

I’m obviously not a big fan of Governor McCrory, but I want an accurate read on him. It doesn’t do Democrats any good to underestimate him.   Two in cases in point: (1) Democrats who dismissed Ronald Reagan as an “amiable dunce” and (2) all of Barack Obama’s opponents, Democrats and Republicans, who dismissed him in…

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The Smell Test

By Carter Wrenn August 7, 2013

All I can say about Gary’s column on D.G. Martin is – “Amen.”   In the fourteen years I’ve known D.G., I’ve never heard him say an unkind word about anyone – so Claude Pope claiming he’d called Republicans Nazis just didn’t pass the smell test.   Here’s the column D.G. wrote. Take a look…

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How Berger Won

By Gary Pearce August 7, 2013

Carter has done a couple of insightful (as always) blogs about Senator Phil Berger: that he’s a true-believer conservative and a small-town product, in contrast to the big-city moderates who are the second- and third-most powerful Republicans in North Carolina (respectively, Thom Tillis and Pat McCrory).   It also looks like Berger was a lot…

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A Lesson From John Wilson

By Gary Pearce August 6, 2013

John Wilson went from teaching school in Raleigh to leading the NCAE and then the NEA. He went from leading teacher protests against Governor Hunt in 1984 to working with Hunt 10 years later to raise North Carolina’s teachers’ pay above the national average.   He wrote a recent blog in Education Week (“The Most…

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D.G. and the GOP

By Gary Pearce August 5, 2013

D.G. Martin – TV-radio host, newspaper columnist and finalist for Most Interesting Man in the World – riled up the Republican Party with a recent column.   State GOP Chair Claude Pope accused D.G. of comparing Republicans to Nazis. “Inexcusable, disgusting and shameful,” Pope fumed. He called on UNC-TV to suspend D.G.’s show “Book Watch,”…

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The Sum of Human Foibles

By Carter Wrenn August 5, 2013

Some fellow up in the mountains decided it would be a cute idea to drop a possum in a tinsel draped cage twenty feet onto a stage on New Year’s Eve at a party.   To the possum’s chagrin, the State Wildlife Resources Commission agreed it was a cute idea and gave the fool a…

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Devilment

By Carter Wrenn August 2, 2013

An old friend who now lives in Maryland wrote the other day and asked, What in blazes is going on in the North Carolina legislature?   Well, right now, thankfully, nothing. The legislators have decamped.   But what kind of devilment went on in the legislature before the peace of August southern afternoons was restored?…

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Mish-Mash

By Carter Wrenn January 29, 2025

Tim Waltz posted a photo of himself standing outside in a snowstorm wearing a flannel shirt…

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Finding Out

By Gary Pearce January 28, 2025

Some Trump supporters are surprised to find out they’re Trump victims. Farmers at the American Farm…

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A Day of Reckoning?

By Carter Wrenn January 27, 2025

Watching a troupe of politicians sitting in line side by side behind an ornate wooden dais…

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