Carter is a Republican. Gary is a Democrat.

They met in 1984, during the epic U.S. Senate battle between Jesse Helms and Jim Hunt. Carter worked for Helms and Gary, for Hunt.

Years later, they became friends. They even worked together on some nonpolitical clients.

They enjoy talking about politics. So they started this blog in 2005.

They’re still talking. And they invite you to join the conversation.

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Aaron Fussell

By Gary Pearce July 8, 2014

Aaron Fussell was one of those modest World War II heroes who saved the free world, then came home and spent the rest of his life building a better world.   I knew him as school superintendent and a legislator. But I got to know him best much later, on the golf course. That’s where…

More Stupid Hat!

By Gary Pearce July 7, 2014

Governor Pat (Stupid Hat) McCrory’s admonition worked! No deaths or injuries were reported from Hurricane Arthur after he went on television urging North Carolinians along the coast: “Don’t put on your stupid hat.”   He even mimed putting on a stupid hat. And made air quotes around “stupid hat.” It got it on the CBS…

A Lit Stick of Dynamite

By Carter Wrenn July 3, 2014

There’s a lit stick of dynamite – and one unanswered question – being blithely passed from hand to hand in the backrooms of Raleigh: Who will the State Senators and Representatives make pay to cleanup Duke Energy’s coal ash ponds – which Duke says is going to cost $10 billion and which, Duke also says,…

Dangerous Terrain for an Optimist

By Carter Wrenn July 3, 2014

The Governor sent his budget over to the Senate.   And as Rodney Dangerfield used to say, He got no respect. It was DOA.   The Senate sent its budget over to the House.   And it got no respect either. DOA, again.   The House sent its budget to the Senate.   And met…

Not Joshing Around

By Gary Pearce July 3, 2014

I know that people in the Governor’s Office read this blog. So please pass this message on to Governor McCrory: Josh Ellis needs some time off.   Josh, the Governor’s communications director, responded rather sharply to my blog yesterday about McCrory’s new Governor’s Teacher Network (GTN). (See “McCrory’s Make-up Test.”)   Josh’s email is below,…

Befuddled?

By Carter Wrenn July 2, 2014

The news from Iraq was puzzling.   West of Baghdad, ISIS (the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) was whipping our allies the al-Maliki government.   At the same time, next door in Syria, President Assad was bombing our enemy ISIS.   Meanwhile, in Washington, President Obama was asking Congress for $500 million to send…

McCrory’s Make-up Test

By Gary Pearce July 2, 2014

Governor McCrory acts like a man who had a serious health scare and now vows to eat right and exercise.  His main exercise is running away from the state Senate as fast as he can.   Clearly, the Governor has seen the Senate’s poll numbers on education. He doesn’t want to catch that bug.  …

A Year Later…

By Carter Wrenn July 1, 2014

Last year (after their big victory in the 2012 election) as soon as Republican State Senators and State Representatives got to Raleigh they went to work to cut spending and it was almost like a competition:   The House would announce it had cut a hundred million dollars.   And the Senate would top that…

Corporations Vs. The People

By Gary Pearce July 1, 2014

This is one of the oldest battles in our Republic. And you ain’t seen nothing yet.   The U.S. Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby decision ignites a battle over women’s health care, which will command center stage. But it’s really just part of the long-running battle over the proper relationship between corporations and the government/the people.…

Another School Study? Yes.

By Gary Pearce March 19, 2026

Some progressives groaned when Governor Josh Stein announced a bipartisan “Blue Ribbon Commission on Public Education”…

Independents Turn Against GOP

By Gary Pearce March 17, 2026

North Carolina voters don’t like either the Democratic or Republican parties. But Independent voters – who…

Getting the News

By Gary Pearce March 13, 2026

How do you get your news? Our statewide poll asked North Carolina voters what their primary…