posted on March 19, 2012 10:55
Why did President Obama announce he’s against Amendment One? Because African-American voters strongly support it.
Since African-Americans lean so strongly Democratic, an oft-overlooked fact is that they are the most church-going, religious and even evangelical voting blocs in a religious, church-going state. And polls show they strongly oppose same-sex marriages.
The recent Elon Poll gave hope to amendment opponents. It showed that 54 percent of respondents (all North Carolinians, not registered or likely voters) oppose the amendment; 38 percent support it.
I’m more skeptical. Private polls show strong support among voters statewide.
The prospect of a competitive and meaningful Republican presidential primary won’t help. It will turn out Republicans. And heavy African-American turnout in the Democratic primaries for governor and lieutenant governor won’t help.
The best thing opponents have going for them is that the amendment is poorly written and could hurt a lot of people, not just same-sex couples.
It’s also counter-intuitive to vote “against” the amendment. Voters are used to hearing about amendments that support same-sex marriage.
So maybe opponents should target Republican and conservative voters with a simple message: “Vote AGAINST the gay-marriage amendment. Vote NO in May.”
Confusion can be your friend.
Monday, March 19, 2012 1:46 PM
Confusion has certainly benefited Democrats and Democratic causes in the past, especially when aided by it's close cousin, obfuscation. But this is a case where a little confusion might just save the voters from themselves.
I hope the voters are wise enough to defeat this proposed amendment. If enacted, the amendment would make it impossible for the state to one day pass a much-needed civil unions law, and its presence in our consitution will be an albatross around the necks of Republicans and conservatives for years to come. In North Carolina gay people marry now, and will continue to do so regardless of whether or not this amendment passes. Contrary to popular belief, gay marriage is not "illegal" here or anywhere else. These couples set up households, jointly acquire assets, raise children, and do all the other things that traditional couples do. And they have the same troubles (break-ups, death of a partner, etc.) that traditional couples have, and these sometimes result in messy, complicated court cases. But if this amendment passes, our courts will be barred by the constitution from recognizing many of the relevant facts of these cases. Anyone who thinks that justice can be done in such circumstances is nuts.
As the years go by and case after case of injustices created by this amendment are highlighted by the media, Republicans will rue the day they let a vocal minority of hard-headed zealots talk them into supporting this one.
Monday, March 19, 2012 7:01 PM
Amendment One is an effort to get "marriage" identified as only between a man and a woman in North Carolina (anti-same-sex marriage). This is already the case, actually, because same sex marriages are not recognized here. So, the whole thing is about making this a constitutional amendment...something far more difficult to change than legislative law. I wish Luther could find a way to get links "clickable" here on the Front Page....here's a link that explains what this Amendment is about (you'll have to copy and paste it to your browser unless Luther has fixed this):
Obama doesn't have to worry about doing much of anything or saying much of anything that would dissuade blacks from voting for him. Yeah...a great many are against same-sex marriage. Hey, truth be known, a great many are against illegal immigrants as well (ya never see much on this, of course) but it doesn't matter that Obama says he's against Amendment One here in our fair state. He's gonna get 90+ % of the black vote regardless.
Gary is right here...and it's a conundrum every time there's an amendment proposed on a ballot. A lot of pepole get confused about what voting NO and voting YES actually means. Sometimes, confusion can be an amendment's supporters best friend.
Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:39 PM
Carbine..."Gay Marriage" is N O T legal here. Our fair state has the DOMA law. Here's the site. You'll have to copy and paste it to your browser because TAP still hasn't figured out how to make links clickable on the Front Page. Scroll down to "North Carolina".
Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:08 PM
Gay marriage is most certainly legal in North Carolina, and in every other state in the United States. I should know, I attended one just last summer. The fact that the state does not recognize a marriage does not mean that it didn't happen or that it doesn't exist. It simply means that the state takes no legal notice of it.