Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:24 PM
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“President Bush and his coterie are notoriously dismissive of people who question them.”
Not like the previous administration, of course, which was known to invite its critics over for tea and crumpets and long, heart-felt discussions over their differences, and which was always so frank and honest about its own failures and shortcomings, and NEVER, EVER tried to ‘cover up’ anything anyone connected to them ever did wrong….
In reality, this has got to be one of the most childish criticisms of an administration on record.
Comment by Jim Stegall — March 15, 2006 @ 2:44 pm
Gary, you know you’re on solid ground when Bushbots scurry from their hidey-holes to compare Dear Leader to Blowjob Bill.
“See,” they gleefully say. “We’re not the only liars.”
That’s true. But they are the only liars whose actions have led to the killing of at least 30,000 innocent civilians and more than 2000 US soldiers so AWOL George could play wartime president. What’s more, the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal has been unparalleled in its incompetence in executing their criminal war.
Republicans hate government. It’s no wonder they suck at it.
Comment by Anglico — March 16, 2006 @ 9:25 am
Anglico,
Your rhetoric reveals more than just your angry prejudices and intellectual shortcomings; it also reveals your character.
Comment by Jim Stegall — March 16, 2006 @ 11:09 am
As far as intellectual shortcomings go, my Republican cousins, who proudly announce they never read books, could only send Karl Rove propaganda as reasons for supporting George Bush.
As far as character, I have received two emails, from “Christian” females, announcing their support for our American boys to be trained in and execute the torture of other human beings.
As a child reading history, I remember the ostracism and disbelief that we, as Americans, held toward the German people for allowing Hitler to commit his atrocities. Forget the comparison many make between George Bush and Hitler. Let’s examine a comparison between the present-day American and the people of Germany during the Nazi build-up.
As I read that George Bush has his finger on a nuke pointed toward Iran, I am thankful that some people have the intellectual capacity to question and work against this neocon gang who are unworthy of the trust of the American people.
Comment by Valerie Sumner — March 17, 2006 @ 4:35 pm
“…announcing their support for our American boys to be trained in and execute the torture of other human beings.”
Ms. Sumner,
Do you seriously believe that American servicemen are being training to torture other human beings?
Comment by Jim Stegall — March 17, 2006 @ 5:14 pm
To learn more about the American soldier using torture, go to google and type in “torture, american soldiers,” and read some of the accounts by the soldiers themselves.
Yes, news accounts report a lot of “outsourcing” of torture by the U.S., but since Bush, along with Rumsfeld and Ashcroft, “signed off on a secret system of detention and interrogation that opened the door to such methods” (Newsweek investigation), torture by ordinary soldiers has become almost routine and expected.
After looking at Abu Ghraib pics, Senator Lindsay Graham, former military prosecutor, said, “It seems to have been planned.”
“‘Ordinary American soldiers did this, but someone taught them,’ say Darius Rajali, an expert on the use of torture by democracies.”
From an October 2, 2005, article in the Sunday Herald, Neil Mackay writes, “Three soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division … near Fallujah… have told how prisoners were tortured both as a form of stress relief and as a way of breaking them for interrogation sessions.”
To read more about the U.S. using chemical weapons in Iraq, one may go to the Iraq Veterans Against the War web site.
Would I want a son or daughter to join this military? No. Are we going to have a lot of boys and girls coming back home with severe mental, emotional, and psychological problems? Yes.
Comment by Valerie Sumner — March 18, 2006 @ 10:58 am
You didn’t anwser the question, Ms. Sumner. Do YOU BELIEVE that American servicemen are being trained to torture other human beings?
I suspect that, despite your previous post, you don’t REALLY believe that’s what’s going on. However, you (and you’re not alone) dislike this administration enough to put reason aside for a season and sidle up to those whose distain for the current administration exceeds even your own.
I hardly need to point out to you the weakness of the evidence you’ve presented above. But since it’s clear you have no first-hand knowledge of military affairs, I will address the most preposterous bit of mis-information you have unwittingly passed on, that about the supposed use of chemical weapons. The armed forces of the United States do not use chemical weapons. We started destroying our stockpile of chemical agents years ago (I don’t know if that operation is complete yet, as it was still on-going when I retired in 1996). Also, if you have been to the “Iraq Veterans Against the War” website, you surely know who they are and what their agenda is, so you must realize they can’t possibly lend any objective information to this debate. You might also notice that, as incendiary as such a charge is, absolutely no one other than the group you cited is making it now. Doesn’t that tell you something? Do you think that Russ Feingold or Hillary Clinton or John Kerry (and they should know) would remain silent on this if it were happening?
A bit of advice–when you hear something that sounds unbelievable, it usually is. Don’t give an unbelievable report credence just because it reflects badly on someone you dislike.
Finally, back to the original question. Do you REALLY believe that American servicemen are being trained to torture other human beings?
Comment by Jim Stegall — March 18, 2006 @ 6:23 pm