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The 2012 RINO hunt
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Southern Patriot

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5-15-2011 03:13 PM
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2012 is a critical election year. Not only do we need to oust America's first Third World President (by temperament and ethnicity even if not by birth), but we also need to elect a conservative senate and end the reign of the thug Harry Reid.

We have a number of socialist or fellow traveller Democrats who are low hanging fruit in the Senate, and we need to take them down, but we also have a few backstabbers in our own caucas who seem to forget who elected them, and we need to replace them as well. I plan to contribute in key races in both groups.

I made my first political contribution in the 2012 cycle today in one of those races to take down a RINO, to Richard Mourdock in Indiana, who is running against RINO Richard Lugar. Lugar has voted as a lib on a wide range of issues and badly needs to be replaced. Mourdock is Indiana State Treasurer, and was the highest votegetter statewide in the 2010 general election. He already has the backing of a majority of GOP county chairmen in Indiana in his primary challenge to Lugar. Indiana is a conservative state, and we should not have any trouble in electing Mourdock in November.

The other two RINO's I want to contribute against are Orrin Hatch of Utah and Bob Corker of Tennessee. Hatch years ago was a conservative firebrand, but in recent years he has gone native and played as a beltway establishment insider, repeatedly selling out to Democrats. Utah's most conservative Congressman is considering challenging Hatch at the state convention. Last year at the state convention, delegates denied renomination to Utah's other RINO Senator, Bennett. Utah will elect whoever the Republian nominee is, so we need to make sure it is a conservative. Hatch is the poster boy for term limits. Tennessee may be tougher as there is no solid challenger on the horizon and GOP voters there are a bit RINOish themselves by nature. If we could beat Corker, I think we could hold the seat, but beating Corker may be tougher than beating Lugar or Hatch.

In states that tend to be liberal, like Maine, however, we may not have the luxury of being able to elect a real conservative in November, so there I will knuckle under and swallow what we have which is at least better than having a Democrat.

In several open seats, we will also have to watch that we nominate conservatives instead of RINO's. For example the likely frontrunner in Texas is thought to be Lt Gov Dewhurst, also called DewCrist because he is a political chameleon like Charlie Crist. Several good conservatives are running, and we need to watch who emerges as the leading conservative and send him some help to beat DewCrist.
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5-15-2011 08:46 PM
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I read your entire post and agree with just about all of it, my man. What I've noticed throughout the years is that the longer our conserv/repub representatives serve, the more they become what you call RINOs. They succumb to the D.C. experience...they fall prey to the money and power involved in it all. They become more involved in making sure their re-election is secure than being involved in how they got into office in the first place. Yeah...I'm a "term limits" kinda guy because of that.

Again, I hear ya on the RINO thingy. We have to be different than dems, who would vote for the devil himself if he had a "D" in front of his name. We have to maintain our selectivity...making sure our values as republicans are what we see in the candidates and actual office holders.

Great post.
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5-16-2011 09:41 PM
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The media has also learned the art of selecting the Republican RINO's. They get behind all RINOS as an insurance policy, if the Dem doesn't win, at least we have a lesser Dem. I have read some discouraging lines from Walter Williams. He contends that Obama cannot be beat. He makes a great argument. His main arguments is the woeful lack of economic education the vast majority of Americans possess. His arguments are 100% correct.
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5-17-2011 11:04 PM
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The Florida Senate primary is also quite interesting, although this time without the extreme RINO's like Charlie Crist or Indiana's Lugar.  Still, it has a strong conservative vs. establishment flavor even if the establishment candidates are distinctly to the right of Crist.

The conservative candidate is also close to conservative superstar Sen. Marco Rubio.  He is Adam Hasner, who served as State House Majority Leader while Rubio was House Speaker.  Like Rubio, Hasner has an ethnic appeal in Florida since he is Jewish and the large Jewish community in the state usually votes with the Democrats.  That could throw a monkey wrench into the Democrats electoral math since Jewish voters are much more likely to vote for one of their co-religionist running as a Republican than say a Black voters would be to vote for a Black Republican candidate.  Hasner is definitely on my contribution list.  I hear he is exciting the Tea Party folks just like Rubio did at this point.

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5-18-2011 12:24 PM
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The surest way to term limits is to recruit and support solid opposition candidates, in primaries or general elections, and then vote the career politicians out. I agree that the longer they serve, they more self serving they become. We the people have the power to vote them out. What makes us think that they would vote themselves out by passing term limits?
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5-18-2011 11:35 PM
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We certainly do not need to overlook the open seat races in making sure we get the right candidates.

One example already given is Texas with DewCrist, who needs to be defeted. The trouble is there are two solid conservative candidates, Williams and Cruz, who have good records and present themselves well. One will undoubtedly get into the runoff with DewCrist, but trying to choose which one now to send a contribution is difficult. Either Williams or Cruz would be interestng nationally as Williams is black and Cruz of Hispanic heritage.

Another is Wisconsin. Tommy Thompson was a hero in the Reagan and pre-Reagan era, a real leader in the area of welfare reform, but he has now apparently gone doty. Thompson was one major GOP name that Obama trotted out to endorse Obamacare. Of course a lot of that was just political prostitution as it was based on who Thomposn's employer was at the time. Still having someone who has openly supported Obamacare as our nominee would be an anathema. Fortunately, conservative former Congressman Mark Neumann has also indicated he is running. Neumann is one I will definitely send a contribution to.
Southern Patriot

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5-24-2011 11:59 AM
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Folks, if we are going to beat the RINO establishment, we need to open our checkbooks and help the good guys:

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/...g-in-2012/
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5-25-2011 10:43 AM
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Posted By Choo on 5-16-2011 10:41 PM
The media has also learned the art of selecting the Republican RINO's. They get behind all RINOS as an insurance policy, if the Dem doesn't win, at least we have a lesser Dem. I have read some discouraging lines from Walter Williams. He contends that Obama cannot be beat. He makes a great argument. His main arguments is the woeful lack of economic education the vast majority of Americans possess. His arguments are 100% correct.
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Choo, I've noticed this HUGE change in CNN lately.  They're what DKos calls "FoxNews lite"..hahahaha.  They're doing all they can to schoos the independants/moderates so they can hopefully get some of their viewership back (which they've lost in a massive way, mostly to FoxNews).  Hey, check out their web page and their presentation on the dem candidate winning a GOP seat in NY.  It was a lackluster presentation and not even close to being on the front page of that website.  Then, I turned on CNN on the tube and they're almost avoiding mentioning it. 
We need more of this.  Kudos FoxNews for your tenacity and work to become the number one news network in the world.  It has taken the steam out of just about every liberal/progressive news network...CBS, CNN, MSNBC..you name it. 
Just a comment on what you're saying.  Been gone to other blogsites lately because, to be honest, they get FAR more participation. 
Still love TAP, though, don't get me wrong.



 

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5-25-2011 06:53 PM
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CNN doesn't want to throw in the towel like CNBC. They want to keep that neutral pretense. It will never work. They will always go with their heart. They are a socialist network. They will throw out a few crumbs but never call things what they are. With Obama's latest trip to Europe, he has had so many gaffs that one could fill a book. Not one mention by the main stream media. If it had been Bush, we would be seeing re-runs of all the gaffs for the next year or two. These people actually think Obama is almost God. They believe he does nothing wrong. If he took a gun away from a secrete service agent and killed a by stander, the media would call it a wonderful mercy killing. Obama puts that old lady out of her misery. They are sick.
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5-25-2011 10:55 PM
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Richard Mourdock deserves our help:

http://www.richardmourdock.com/

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5-31-2011 11:54 AM
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Steve Forbes has endorsed Richard Mourdock:

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/56_1...050-1.html

I wonder if he will pull his former consultant Carter Wrenn into that race?

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5-31-2011 06:21 PM
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"R"...against Dick Lugar?

Not a chinaman's chance that Carter would get involved in that.

Next question.
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6-03-2011 04:17 PM
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Well the Texas Senate primary is getting clearer.  It looked like two RINO WASP's, DewCrist, er... Dewhurst, and Leppert, against two minority conservatives, former Railroad Commissioner Michael Williams, who is black, and former state Solicitor General Ted Cruz, who is hispanic, and a few other lesser candidates.  Now Williams seems to be switching to running for a new open House seat, leaving Cruz the only substantial conservative in the race, and Cruz had gotten a slew of conservative endorsements.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/...-in-texas/

With conservatives together and RINO's split in Texas, we now have an advantage, but we do not need to sit back and assume we have it in the bag.  My own check is on the way to Cruz.

Also, in Utah, it seems that Congressman Jason Chaffetz, a rock solid conservative, is signalling that he is definitely going to challenge Orrin Hatch, who has been there too long and gone mushy.

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6-06-2011 02:11 PM
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This is the guy to ''down the Hatch'':

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...in-senate/

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6-06-2011 02:13 PM
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Adam Hasner deserves our support:

 

www.adamhasner.com

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6-07-2011 08:37 AM
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Posted By Reaganite on 6-03-2011 05:17 PM

Congressman Jason Chaffetz, a rock solid conservative

You like Chaffetz, but don't support Ron Paul? Every time I think I understand you, you say something like this.

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6-07-2011 11:40 PM
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Posted By TEA party patriot on 6-07-2011 09:37 AM
Posted By Reaganite on 6-03-2011 05:17 PM

Congressman Jason Chaffetz, a rock solid conservative

You like Chaffetz, but don't support Ron Paul? Every time I think I understand you, you say something like this.


I support most if not all of Paul's economic agenda, and I like having a guy like him in Congress.  I do not agree with much of his foreign and military policy agenda as I find it naive. ( Of course, I did not agree with Bush's foreign and military policy either as I found it naive in another direction.) That is why I have trouble with him as a presidential candidate.

I am glad you like Chaffetz.  Are you going to send him some money when he formally gets in the race?  I am! 
 

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6-08-2011 08:31 AM
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Posted By Reaganite on 6-08-2011 12:40 AM

I support most if not all of Paul's economic agenda, and I like having a guy like him in Congress.  I do not agree with much of his foreign and military policy agenda as I find it naive. ( Of course, I did not agree with Bush's foreign and military policy either as I found it naive in another direction.) That is why I have trouble with him as a presidential candidate.

I am glad you like Chaffetz.  Are you going to send him some money when he formally gets in the race?  I am! 
 


Actually, Chaffetz's foreign policy is closer to Ron Paul than it is the poser conservatives. For example, recently Chaffetz was one of the few Republicans to support Dennis Kucinich's bill demanding withdrawal from Libya, before GOP leadership saw it was going to pass and scuttled the vote.
 

By the way, the economic/debt and foreign policy issues are connected. How do you intellectually square wanting to reduce the debt with wanting to continue being the world's policeman? You cannot balance the budget without either bringing the troops home or raising taxes. Which is it?

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6-08-2011 01:47 PM
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Posted By TEA party patriot on 6-08-2011 09:31 AM
Posted By Reaganite on 6-08-2011 12:40 AM

I support most if not all of Paul's economic agenda, and I like having a guy like him in Congress.  I do not agree with much of his foreign and military policy agenda as I find it naive. ( Of course, I did not agree with Bush's foreign and military policy either as I found it naive in another direction.) That is why I have trouble with him as a presidential candidate.

I am glad you like Chaffetz.  Are you going to send him some money when he formally gets in the race?  I am! 
 


Actually, Chaffetz's foreign policy is closer to Ron Paul than it is the poser conservatives. For example, recently Chaffetz was one of the few Republicans to support Dennis Kucinich's bill demanding withdrawal from Libya, before GOP leadership saw it was going to pass and scuttled the vote.
 

By the way, the economic/debt and foreign policy issues are connected. How do you intellectually square wanting to reduce the debt with wanting to continue being the world's policeman? You cannot balance the budget without either bringing the troops home or raising taxes. Which is it?



 

Again, I ask if you plan to send some money to help Chaffetz beat Hatch?  I plan to do so.

I would be happy to discuss presidential politics or foreign and military policy in another thread, but I do not intend to go off topic in this one to do so.

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6-08-2011 03:35 PM
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Posted By Reaganite on 6-08-2011 02:47 PM
Again, I ask if you plan to send some money to help Chaffetz beat Hatch?  I plan to do so.

I would be happy to discuss presidential politics or foreign and military policy in another thread, but I do not intend to go off topic in this one to do so.


What!? You're the one who brought up foreign policy. Also, does "The 2012 RINO hunt" not also include "presidential politics", or is that race exempt?
 

Considering this as well as you not responding to me in the thread I just posted on this very topic, this smells a lot like a cop-out.

As for contributions to Chaffetz, he hasn't even committed to doing it yet. Even if he does, I can't guarantee I'll be financially able to do it. If I'm in the position to be able to send money, and I have to choose who to send to, I'm going for the only race that matters, because our dollar doesn't have enough time to think we can save it from the bottom up. You shouldn't assume that just because someone sees the beauty of the free market means that they have lots of cash to throw around.

 

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